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	<title>Comments on: Extreme Democracy, Four Years Later</title>
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		<title>By: Jock Gill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jock Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Oct 2008 11:27:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aldon,

I concur with your post.  I have also posted a few comments &amp; questions over on Jon&#039;s blog @ http://weblogsky.com/2008/10/10/zack-exley-on-the-new-organizers/#comment-54

Thanks,

Jock</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aldon,</p>
<p>I concur with your post.  I have also posted a few comments &amp; questions over on Jon&#8217;s blog @ <a href="http://weblogsky.com/2008/10/10/zack-exley-on-the-new-organizers/#comment-54" rel="nofollow">http://weblogsky.com/2008/10/10/zack-exley-on-the-new-organizers/#comment-54</a></p>
<p>Thanks,</p>
<p>Jock</p>
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		<title>By: Jon Lebkowsky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jon Lebkowsky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 20:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Aldon, re. your comment that &quot;the discussion devolves into rehashing strategies of the Kerry campaign&quot; - while that was true, I think the conversation was helpful. I came away with a better understanding of the context Zack was in, and he suggested that I post the plan for more discussion/review, which I&#039;ve done. In talking about the nature of politics-as-usual and what hasn&#039;t worked in the past for whatever reason, I think we get closer to an understanding of what might work today and tomorrow. 

You might also take a look at my discussion with Lowell Feld and Nate Wilcox: http://www.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/337/Lowell-Feld-and-Nate-Wilcox-Netr-page01.html  They&#039;re the authors of _Netroots Rising_. In that conversation, we&#039;ve touched some points that are relevant to your concerns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aldon, re. your comment that &#8220;the discussion devolves into rehashing strategies of the Kerry campaign&#8221; &#8211; while that was true, I think the conversation was helpful. I came away with a better understanding of the context Zack was in, and he suggested that I post the plan for more discussion/review, which I&#8217;ve done. In talking about the nature of politics-as-usual and what hasn&#8217;t worked in the past for whatever reason, I think we get closer to an understanding of what might work today and tomorrow. </p>
<p>You might also take a look at my discussion with Lowell Feld and Nate Wilcox: <a href="http://www.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/337/Lowell-Feld-and-Nate-Wilcox-Netr-page01.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/337/Lowell-Feld-and-Nate-Wilcox-Netr-page01.html</a>  They&#8217;re the authors of _Netroots Rising_. In that conversation, we&#8217;ve touched some points that are relevant to your concerns.</p>
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